Live Lesson Challenge #1 – (11/15/2018)

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  • #21719
    kahaikahai
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    Hey Guys,

    just this week, we set a new challenge for ourselves. We’re taking suggestions from the live chat during the Live Lesson, and Aldrine, Aaron, and I are going to try and come up with songs using the different suggestions. For the test run, we got Eb for the suggested key. For the chords we got suggested vi, IV, V, and iii. For the key of Eb, these chords will be Cm, Ab, Bb, and Gm. Those are the requirements for the songs that we have to come up with, but we also have some bonuses challenges: vii (D diminished), a 6th chord, and lyrics. Wish us luck, and if you want to try the challenge yourself, we would be ecstatic to see what you guys come up with. The deadline for us and for anyone who wants to try the challenge is in two weeks (November 29th). I might post with updates on how my songs is coming along. I look forward to seeing some of you guys take on the challenge for yourselves!

    Aloha,
    -Kahai

    11-29-2018 Update:
    Everyone did an awesome job! We had so much fun. Now that the challenge is done I’m reposting Marc and Daniel’s videos, so you don’t have to scroll down. I’m also posting videos of my songs since they were hard to hear during the Live Lesson. Once the Live Lesson’s replay comes out, I’ll also try to post that, so you guys can see Aaron and Aldrine’s songs.

    Marc’s Song


    Daniel’s Song


    My Song


    My Real Song


    Aldrine’s Song


    Aaron’s Song

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    #21732
    Alan FasickAlan Fasick
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    Aloha,

    Here’s my entry. I was inspired by Canon in D and Dance with a Bandit:

    Also, feel free to open the link in YouTube to see what else I’ve been up to (it’s part of a playlist):

    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLtTqBaoYgLQ_CME9mU1yEI6AmihoIUwmZ

    Mahalo,
    Alan

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    #21734
    kahaikahai
    Member

    Hey Alan,

    that’s amazing! I started working on my song, but it’s nowhere near as good as yours. I was also thinking about doing a chord change going back and forth between Eb and Gm, but I ended up doing something different. After watching your video I might have to revisit that idea. You did a lot of cool things; the artificial harmonics at the end, so good! I hope my song is half as good as yours. Now I feel even more pumped to do this challenge. I’m so glad you decided to join in.

    Aloha,
    -Kahai

    #21736
    Alan FasickAlan Fasick
    Member

    Aloha Kahai,

    Thanks! I’ve been experimenting a lot with how you can change one note to either change to a different chord in the same key (F to Dm for example) — something I had avoided when thinking of doing chord extensions, but when done intentionally can be interesting to play with. So with the key of Eb (who the heck plays in Eb on the ‘ukulele?) I stumbled on the fact that from Eb you just drop D# to D to get Gm or raise the Bb to C to get Cm — it really just came from noodling around that idea. Then I played with the same ideas around the Ab and Bb shapes. Bb to Gm also works in that upper position…

    Great idea with the challenge — really inspired me to try something new.

    Mahalo,
    Alan

    #21754
    kahaikahai
    Member

    Hey Alan,

    that’s a great observation that I never thought about. I’ve always played/noodled around first, and then learned the theory behind it second. I’ve always done those kinds of chord changes because you just have to move or add an extra finger; easy peazy. I like how we can both come up with the same chord changes, but come at it from different perspectives.

    I think I have some chord patterns, but my problem is figuring what genre I want the song to be in. I love punk, hip hop, and edm, but I don’t know if I want to do a more stripped down song instead. I always run into this problem where I get too greedy with all of my different options. Maybe someone can give me a suggestion and I can work from there.

    I hope more people post their own submissions, and their thought process behind their own songs. I’m excited to see more people’s songs, and I’m excited to see the songs Aaron and Aldrine come up with.

    Aloha,
    -Kahai (UU Staff)

    P.S.

    Here is the video of the challenge. You can probably understand it better if you see the video than read my description.

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    #21758

    Wow Alan, you don’t waste any time! Beautiful playing and composition.

    #21790
    marcgmarcg
    Member

    I’m trying! I worked hard on something but it sounded identical to a song I know. Then I figured out I was playing Wind by Akeboshi (https://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/tab/akeboshi/wind_chords_621597). HAHA. Oh well. If I can’t figure out a different progression that I like I’ll just roll with it.

    Here is the original song for the uninitiated. https://youtu.be/IcseamG7ReY

    #21795
    kahaikahai
    Member

    Hey Marc,

    I would love to see how your song is similar to Wind. If you do come up with a different progression, I would still be interested to see what you came up with originally. I’m really glad that we get to see your and Alan’s process through writing your songs. I was playing around with the chords, and I actually found that they are pretty close to a certain “theme” song, so I think I’m going to try and parody it. It sounds similar, but you can also tell that it uses some chords not in the original theme. Hopefully it comes out alright, but I think it will at least be a funny joke.

    Aloha,
    -Kahai

    #21797

    A parody sounds great – looking forward to it!

    And while I’m here… which joker suggested A flat?! It’s so hard! Oh wait, that’s the point of a challenge 😉

    Anyway, I’ve found this resource pretty helpful (no affiliation):

    https://ukuleletricks.com/ukulele-chords/ab/major/

    It’s a quick way of viewing various inversions for a particular chord until you find one you feel comfortable with. It might be way up the fretboard, but that could create an interesting atmosphere in the song.

    #21801
    kahaikahai
    Member

    Hey Ourmaninjapan,

    thanks for posting that link. I’m sure it will really help some people. I’m guessing you just meant the Ab chord, and not the key of Ab. The first Ab chord from the link might be a little tricky with that G string 1st fret, so an easy way I play it is to wrap my thumb around the neck of the uke and mutes the G string. You can also play the second inversion from the link. It is the chord shape that Alan used. You by barre the 3rd fret with your pointer finger, middle on E string 4, and ring on G string 5

    Just as a heads up for anyone who is checking this out, the key is Eb, and the chords are, Ab, Bb, Cm, and Gm. Those are the minimum chords that we challenged ourselves to include, but all the chords for Eb are Eb, Fm, Gm, Ab, Bb, Cm, and D diminished, so feel free to add those chords if you want. Also, it’s a little more advanced, but if you want to change keys during your song, that would be perfectly fine, and I’m sure we would be excited to see someone do that.

    Aloha,
    -Kahai

    #21803

    Hi Kahai.

    Yes, I meant the Ab chord. The rest of the Eb key itself is not as bad as I feared.

    Thanks for the chord tips. I forgot about muting the G string with the thumb – that helps a lot. So far I’ve found using Ab6 instead to be easier, and as it’s a 6th chord it gets me a bonus point too! Will try the second inversion as well, for variety.

    Daniel

    #21806
    laogao
    Member

    Question for Live Lesson

    https://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/tab/dan_shay/speechless_chords_2386647

    Gentleman,

    I’ve been trying to learn Dan and Shay’s song SPEECHLESS for my wife as she loves that tune. I consulted ultimateguitar.com for the chords (link above) and the chords seems correct. The music is written in the key of C with a capo on the first fret so it’s really in C# but for the purpose of this question, let’s just say were in C major. The verse starts off traditionally with: I-iii-IV-ii. Then, there is a bridge that stars off vi-V-IV and then there is the first of a few F minor chords in the song and then later there is even a Bb chord. My questions are: Is this just an unorthodox song? Why does the Fm and Bb chord sound like it fits so well in the C major chord family? Is there some alternating key change going on that I am not detecting? I appreciate your help.

    PS – I love the new song challenge ideas that you just started doing. It really got me thinking and trying new things…

    Thanks,

    Lao Gao

    #23415
    marcgmarcg
    Member

    We committed to becoming the hokage! I couldn’t get Wind by Akeboshi out of me head so I worked on my own arrangement for ukulele with my wife, Priya. The chords changes were too fast for her but she did a phenomenal job of holding down the groove(got it on the first take!). Although this isn’t what we intended I loved learning the first half of this song even if it didn’t follow the rules.

    Best,

    Marc

    #23416

    Very nice! That’s a good idea getting her to play percussion rather than chords. Might try to persuade my wife to do the same…

    #23418
    marcgmarcg
    Member

    @kahai I totally forgot to talk about how I heard Wind. I originally had two verses(verse 1: Cm-Gm-Aflat-EFlat, verse 2: Cm-Gm-Aflat-Bflat) in the song where I walked up from A-flat to B-flat with a 3/4 time signature. I tried purposely to choose chords that weren’t in first position so that I could learn more about my fretboard. When I was trying to think of a nice hook for the song I ended up playing I ended up playing most of the melody for these lyrics:

    Don’t try
    To live so wise
    Don’t cry
    ‘Cause your so right
    Don’t dry
    With fakes or fears
    ‘Cause you will hate yourself in the end

    I didn’t realize what the song was at first but I kept finding other parts of Wind when I was looking for other possible hooks. In the end I cut out my second verse and adopted the original 5/8 time signature of the original song. Some of the lines were difficult because if I kept the song in the original octave I wouldn’t be able to get to that Bflat at the end of several melody lines. It ended up sounding great when I moved it up an octave so I just kept doing it when I ran out of low notes. Learning this song really helped train my ears and work in a time signature I had never played before. My wife had a ton of fun too. I think it was really great because we really had to learn to groove together otherwise the song just fell apart.

    Best,

    Marc

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